Posts by Brokeback Watchtower

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Jehovah’s Witnesses Hunted Down And Deported

by Bangalore in

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jehovah’s witnesses hunted down and deported.. https://bitterwinter.org/jehovahs-witnesses-hunted-down-and-deported/.

Brokeback Watchtower

You get no boo hoo hoo from me for the poor persecuted Christian's that have to leave, it is just a fact of life and life goes on. Russia and China think alike on this issue although Russia's a tad more aggressive, I ain't getting my panties in a twist over it that's for sure.

I know I'm heartless sometimes that is a side of me I'm starting to love, why waste emotional pain of caring for every thing that is considered bad by some because of the way they view the world(subjectively). While wishing no harm to people and their sad deportation, and I hope they find better a better life elsewhere, this is a minor thing of importance, it only stresses I think the less aggressive stand of China. When you base everything from a religious tolerance point of view you become very bias on what you let into consciousness.

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Cardinal George Pell convicted of sex abuse

by wozza in

he is the highest rank catholic to cop this in australia .

his case was suppressed for some time but now is public ,.

the news is just breaking on tv he has right of appeal still denying guilt.

Brokeback Watchtower

Compare Vatican news with JW.org:

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/church/news/2019-02/cardinal-george-pell-prison-bail-revoked-vatiab.html

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Jehovah’s Witnesses Hunted Down And Deported

by Bangalore in

jw
friends

jehovah’s witnesses hunted down and deported.. https://bitterwinter.org/jehovahs-witnesses-hunted-down-and-deported/.

Brokeback Watchtower

I think you got to look at government as a business to successfully manage people for profitability on the land they claim ownership of with force if necessary so it should be of no surprise if it reacts in this way to get rid of a public pest and not cause too much concern to the world community in their business model which what make some more aggressive in dealing with this matter than some other government's business model. At least that's the way I see it and welcome rebuttal ,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_model

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Cardinal George Pell convicted of sex abuse

by wozza in

he is the highest rank catholic to cop this in australia .

his case was suppressed for some time but now is public ,.

the news is just breaking on tv he has right of appeal still denying guilt.

Brokeback Watchtower

I don't think they will over turn the conviction and I don't think he is innocent, he has been molesting boys since the 60's before he was a priest I really feel he is guilty.

Gerald Ridsdale

Pell served as an assistant priest at St Alipius' Church in Ballarat East and, in 1973, shared a house with Gerald Ridsdale, a priest who was later defrocked and jailed for child sex crimes.[153][162] Ridsdale was convicted between 1993 and 2017 of a very large number of child sexual abuse and indecent assault charges against children aged as young as four years during the 1970s and 1980s, the total number of known victims standing at 79, but that is thought to be a small proportion of his victims.[163][164][165][166] Pell was part of a leadership group of Catholic priests in the Diocese of Ballarat that met during 1982 and discussed moving Ridsdale from the parish at Mortlake and sending him to Sydney.[167] Pell denied knowing about any of Ridsdale's actions.[168] Journalist and former priest Paul Bongiorno, who also lived in a presbytery with Ridsdale told ABC radio that Ridsdale concealed his activities: "They hide it. It was certainly hidden from me. And when it came out, after I’d left the priesthood, I was shocked and I was ashamed."

In March 2016, when asked by the Royal Commission why he had agreed to walk Ridsdale into the courthouse in Melbourne during his 1993 criminal trial, Pell responded, "I had some status as an auxiliary bishop and I was asked to appear with the ambition that this would lessen the term of punishment, lessen his time in jail." Peter Saunders, the victims' advocate and a former Catholic priest, said that this Pell response "demonstrates once again the callousness, the coldheartedness and the contempt that George Pell appears to display for this whole issue and particularly for the victims of these dreadful crimes."[170]

In 2002 on 60 Minutes, Pell was accused by David Ridsdale, a victim of child sex abuse in Ballarat and the nephew of Gerald Ridsdale, of attempting to bribe him in 1993 in order to prevent the abuse being made public.[22] Minchin's anti-Pell song "Come Home (Cardinal Pell)" repeated the allegation.[171] The allegation was examined at the royal commission and received further wide publicity.[172][173] However, Counsel-Assisting Gail Furness conceded in her final submission to the royal commission that, given it was already known to Pell that Gerald Ridsdale was subject to police investigation, and David Ridsdale had requested a "private" rather than police process "it is not likely that Bishop Pell would then have thought it necessary to offer Mr Ridsdale an inducement to prevent him from going to the police or public with his allegations", and Ridsdale could have "misinterpreted Bishop Pell's offer of assistance".[22]

2002 allegation

In June 2002, Pell was accused by a Melbourne man of having sexually abused a 12-year-old boy at a Catholic youth camp in 1961, whilst he was a young seminarian. Pell denied the accusations and stood aside while the inquiry continued.[174] The complainant agreed to pursue his allegations through the church's own process for dealing with allegations of sexual misconduct, the National Committee for Professional Standards. Retired Victorian Supreme Court Justice Alec Southwell, appointed Commissioner by the church to investigate the matter, found that the complainant, despite his long criminal record, had mostly given the impression of "speaking honestly from actual recollection" but concluded as follows: "bearing in mind the forensic difficulties of the defence occasioned by the very long delay, some valid criticism of the complainant's credibility, the lack of corroborative evidence and the sworn denial of the respondent, I find I am not 'satisfied that the complaint has been established'".[175][176] Pell said he had been exonerated, while the complainant's solicitor said his client had been vindicated.[176]

Victoria Police investigations

In March 2013, Victoria Police launched "Operation Tethering", to investigate whether Pell had committed unreported crimes.[177] On 20 February 2016, the Herald Sun newspaper reported that Pell had been under investigation for the past year by detectives from the Victoria Police SANO Taskforce over sexual abuse allegations involving between five and ten boys that occurred between 1978 and 2001 when he was a priest in Ballarat and when archbishop of Melbourne.[178] His office issued a public statement denying the allegations calling them "utterly false" and asked for an inquiry into the leaking of information by Victoria Police officers to the media.[178] Victoria Police remained silent on whether Pell was being investigated.[178] The SANO Taskforce was established in 2012 to investigate allegations arising from the Victorian Government Inquiry into the Handling of Child Abuse by Religious and other Organisations and the subsequent Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse.[178][179]

On 28 July 2016, the Chief Commissioner of Victoria Police, Graham Ashton, confirmed that there was an investigation into alleged child sexual abuse by Pell following a report by the ABC's 7.30 program the previous day and stated that he was awaiting advice from the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP).[180][181][182] On 17 August 2016, Victoria Police confirmed a response had been received from the DPP, but would not disclose the DPP's recommendations.[183]

In October 2016, three Victoria Police officers from the SANO Task Force flew to Rome to interview Pell, who voluntarily participated, regarding allegations of sexual assault.[184] In February 2017, Victoria Police advised that the brief of evidence against Pell for sexual assault allegations had been returned to the Office of Public Prosecutions for review with advice subsequently provided to Victoria Police in May 2017.[185][186]

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Cardinal George Pell convicted of sex abuse

by wozza in

he is the highest rank catholic to cop this in australia .

his case was suppressed for some time but now is public ,.

the news is just breaking on tv he has right of appeal still denying guilt.

Brokeback Watchtower

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Pell#Priesthood

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Cardinal George Pell convicted of sex abuse

by wozza in

he is the highest rank catholic to cop this in australia .

his case was suppressed for some time but now is public ,.

the news is just breaking on tv he has right of appeal still denying guilt.

Brokeback Watchtower

The guy is a massive hypocrite, or he is in deep denial. He rose up the ranks became Bishop, Archbishop, and finally Cardinal. 1966 became a Priest, 1997 Bishop, Archbishop 2001, Cardinal College 2003, 2014 became responsible for annual Vatican budget as Secretariat for the Economy.

This video shows him rising up the ranks and before the Royal Commission, He denied all charges and said Child Abuse is abhorrent to him(just like the Watchtower corporation spokes person J R Brown) :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ADI2kHGF3E

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New Upcoming Changes - No More Publisher Record Cards & Reporting Hours

by thedepressedsoul in

publisher record cards and reporting hours will be going away.

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coming soon.. made this post 4 years ago, it happened - https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/24020002/kingdom-consolidation-sales-coming-reliable-source.

Brokeback Watchtower

If true I think data protection laws might be a factor as well as the preaching hours and bible studies are way down so they don't want a report anymore because it looks so bad on paper.

It also could be they are getting ready to make some big changes as those running the Watchtower corporation want stop trying to set dates and get out of the predicting the end of the world business because they suck so bad at it.

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7 Jehovah’s Witnesses Brutally Tortured in Russia

by Drearyweather in

https://jw-russia.org/en/news/19021923-622.html.

at least seven of jehovah’s witnesses were subjected to torture—electric shocks, suffocation, and cruel beatings—on the first floor of the russian investigative committee’s building at ul.

ostrovskogo, d. 47, in surgut.

Brokeback Watchtower

That doesn't mean, though, that one cannot show empathy for the injured person; nor does it mean it is wrong ("hypocritical") to do so. However, I am enough of a realist to know that from 12,000 miles away, there is little or nothing that I as an individual can do to help in this instance.

You have real clear thinking, I see that but I'm sure you can also see where someone who was a JW 2 decades ago, might be so removed from the cult that news of JW's being mistreated because of a ban might not really register any sympathy greater than lets save the whales in one's heart after watching the movie "Moby Dick". It all depends where one has been to determine where one is coming from.

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7 Jehovah’s Witnesses Brutally Tortured in Russia

by Drearyweather in

https://jw-russia.org/en/news/19021923-622.html.

at least seven of jehovah’s witnesses were subjected to torture—electric shocks, suffocation, and cruel beatings—on the first floor of the russian investigative committee’s building at ul.

ostrovskogo, d. 47, in surgut.

Brokeback Watchtower

I just want to say every human is a hypocrite when you really think about it,, it is just human nature, that is why when I hear hypocritical statements my ear don't perk up and focus it is a taken for granted kind of thing, so it don't have any negative association.

I enjoy Nate's way of bringing up subjects, so humorous and colorful. so enlighten us great teacher. I await thy holy hand grenade from Antioch.

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OK, I know this forum isn't exactly friends with JWSurvey, BUT...

by Vidiot in

...this, imo, is just too good to pass up:.

https://jwsurvey.org/news/watch-tower-sues-facebook-mark-zuckerberg-for-contempt-of-court-demands-daily-fine.

this bit especially made me laugh:.

Brokeback Watchtower

I think perhaps that Watchtower Legal may be suffering from inflation due to it's belief that they are defending God's earthly organization. At least to the extent that they actually believe this should make them very vulnerable as it puts them in denial and unable to respond to reality, the blind leading the blind. I think all these lawsuits are a desperate attempt to do something to stop the flow of damaging information to the public. They desperately need a few wins in the court room to put some fear of Jehovah into apostates but it will not stop the flow of information because many are learning TTATT, and so the leaks should only multiply,, to enforce some type of transparency on these devious religious fanatics.